Wednesday, July 27, 2022

Stories from La Quatro y Viente Uno

 by Juan Picazo via our Facebook pagina

Image courtesy El Rrun Rrun blog 

1953 Brownsville Compress and E Jackson homes

My mother's old brick home on Van Buren St. (2 houses from Saldañas food store back then) still has the bullet holes shot by a rival neighborhood gang.
I was probably 5 years old around 1975-1976 when several drive-by shootings were directed at my house.
My older brother, R.I.P, and some of his friends, 4-21 FoodPackers, (I guess there was a connection with that name and Saldaña Food Store which was in the same block 🤔🤷‍♂️) had a rivalry.
Unfortunately, one new year's night, they were ambushed right in the front yard of my parent's yard.
Precisely at 12 midnight, when all the fireworks and gunshots were going on, the rival group did another drive-by, fatally shooting a young man right in our front yard.

I always remember rushing to the floor and taking cover under the dining room wooden table.
I'm guessing it was traumatic for me just being 5 years old. Maybe that's why I still remember at the age of 51. I also remember walking home from the downtown bus station. My Mom and I were coming back from Amigoland Mall. Police were at my house because another drive-by had just happened.
What I remember the most from listening to all the adults and the neighbors talking was that my father ran out of the house in his underwear and chased a car while shooting at it down Van Buren St. all the way to "La Dieciocho" (International Blvd.) It was referred to "La Diechiocho" because 18th Street next to Saldaña Food Store continued for a ½ block and connected to International Blvd.
That ½ block is now part of where Pizza Hut is. There was also a group of girls from 4-21 called the "4-21 something Dolls". They all had a black, little, round tattoo on their face close to their cheek. It resembled more a birthmark. I know 2 of my friend's Mom's had that tattoo. That's why I know because one of them told us. We were in 6th grade at the time at Longoria Elementary.
Wow. I had no idea I was going to write so much and on my phone!
I guess nostalgic episodes can really have an impact when one reminiscences.
Editor's birthplace at 2354 1/2 E Jackson St.
~ Juan Picazo

The following comments are shared from the Facebook page:

Guera N Boly D
My neighbor for long time was willy El chueco

  • MaLou Matamoros
    I lived on 14th street and Tyler and that’s one of the reasons my parents didn’t let us go out, but I do remember my sister going to Cummings and she got beat up by a gang and after that they moved her to another school. Very sad situation

Rey David Robledo
I grew up on Van Buren and 24th/25th 2 houses from the compress’ fence ‘67-‘85. I remember my parents telling us to be careful when we would go to Saldaña but never knew why.

Lizz Ramirez
La 4 21

Esther Jaimes
Wow, thanks for sharing! Yup, it was, la 4-21, La morlla, La 12, La Villa Nueva, And others! It was sure very scary!

Je Lo
My deepest sympathy; I had some cousins (3rd) and el puerto guys jump me almost everyday of my jr. high and high school life. They must have seen West Side Story?? I often wonder why they picked me. Pinches montoneros. because of that I realized why so many of us have a below U.S. income margin. We can't work together because we watched to much T.V. violence.

Rey Ybarra
My mom’s neighborhood. We practically grew up at my grandparent’s the Rochas home on Jackson St and 20th St along with our cousins the Cano’s and the Martinez’s a few blocks down

elipe Martinez
East side 4-21 BCV 4ever 2gether as 

Maria De Los Reyes
I lived on Van Buren by the Brownsville Herald!

Lourdes-Miguel Aguilar
My father grew up in La Muralla and he said it was tough back in the days (1930s-50s)

Van Vaughn
My office was at 4th and E. Washington from'75-96 where I worked with federal inmates. I was aware of La Parra and Las Prietas gangs but was oblivious of the gang activity in 4-21. Thank you for sharing your story

Estella Pineda
Awwwww,
I moved to thar neighborhood back on 77-78. why I do I remember my sister was born in 1978 at the house we lived in
1915 E. Van Buren.
We lived there for abt 3 years.
I met the Picassos, The Boards, The Zepedas, n sum people u can't remember.
I went to Longoria Elementary 4th, 5th and 6th grade.
I remember walking to Saldańa, but was a bit scared, cuz there was some girls that would like to bully whoever they thought was a target. Until one day, I had to put on my big girl panties n fight them back. I had to.
Over all I had good memories from my childhood neighborhood ❤.

Felipe Martinez
Lucho Potuano

Guillermo Escorcia
Next to my street, 21 and Jackson

Elena Resendez Zorola
When my dad delivered Kerosene back in the late 1940s, he’d tell my mother: today we have “el 421 area, “la moralla” area, El Barrillo Mexicano, las Prietas,el Southmost, los tendajos, la Fronton y llenar el tanque en Velvorene ( not sure if that was the name where he filled up the huge tank on the truck. The company was on East Fronton and maybe 2nd. I loved to watch them fill up the tank.

Grew in this barrio till I was 17 and moved. Great memories. We were the original 421 Boy Scout Troop in the 80’s based at Holy Family Church. Our chant was 4 Scouting 2gether as 1. The other troops in Brownsville and the Valley did not like us cause we kicked their @$& all the time in competition






Raul Silguero
I grew up at 2234 E Jackson.

Marisol Hinojosa
I used to work near by back in early 2000's I used to walk to UtB to and from work. Never again. I was targeted and I noticed right away guy was walking behind me I ran in the gas station and told the cashier. She hid me behind the counter for almost 30min till the guy left. I called my now husband boyfriend at the time he escorted me to class

Raul Silguero
Born and raised 2234 E. Jackson. By the compress. 1946 -
[born 1965 at 2354 E Jackson - see photo above - house is still there today 7/27/2022]
Mata Carlos
Mi Barrio never muerto..4-21 c/

Juan Picazo
How I wish the true origins of the name "La 4-21" were recorded somewhere.
I remember going to a Brownsville museum downtown, and they told me that there was no records of a 421 calvary during World War II.🤷‍♂️
My father, Samuel Picazo, was born in 1925. I remember him telling me that when he was a little boy around the age of 12 the neighborhood was already called 4-21. That would make the year 1937 or 1938.
World War II was from 1939 to 1947.🤔
Like I mentioned, I wish the neighborhood's name true origins were recorded somewhere because the individuals that were alive when the name "421" came to be have already passed away unless there are some 100 plus year-olds still alive. It would be so interesting to speak to someone from that era/age.
I guess we'll never know or pinpoint the exact origins of the name "La 4-21"

421 Family -- Eloisa Chavarria

Ponch Gmz
Born and raised 2234E Van Buren St
Will NEVER forget my barrio...and my awesome childhood... 4-21 papa
Childhood days with John Taylor  [who responded] great memories in the barrio !

Rudy Carr
Puro West side! La West Levee! We grew up in barrios, not colonias.

Rudy Carr
Puro West side! La West Levee! We grew up in barrios, not colonias
     Juan Picazo
Rudy Carr LOL..true!
I thought it was so funny and weird when people would ask me , "De que colonia eres?" / "Which colonia are you from?"
Juan Picazo yes!! Colonias en Mexico, not here. I remember, La Muralla, La 421,La 802, La Parra, La Riverside, La Southmost, El Puerto. Do you remember any others?
     Juan Picazo
Rudy Carr the original Brownsville neighborhoods!
Umm...yes..others are El Ramireño, La Hayes and you can't forget the neighborhood projects. La Buena Vida, La Villa Verde, etc. there are more but they don't come to mind at the moment.
     Rudy Carr
Juan Picazo Simon!! La bougainvillea!
     Rudy Carr
Juan Picazo I think I had Camaradas in all of them. Great memories.

Garza Captain
I grew up on Riverside in-between El Ramireño and El West. It was neutral territory back then you couldn't travel to other neighbors unless you knew someone that lived there. It wasn't until I went to Central Jr High that I made friends with other people from La Muralla, La Para, El 4-21, and El Puerto. Like I mentioned before, you couldn't go into their neighbors unless you knew someone from there. This was in the mid 70's.
     Ponch Gmz
Garza Captain when I'd ride my bike to el disco de oro I was shittin brick... but hell...we were rebels brotha....awesome times

Frances García Mata
I grew up in La 4-21 in the early 60s, and it was a peaceful neighborhood! We knew all our neighbors, and I remember playing outside, walking to elementary school, walking to the corner store, visiting our friends, and many more wonderful memories!

6 comments:

  1. That picture is not my birth place. 🤷‍♂️
    -Juan Picazo-

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    1. It would say "author's" birthplace if it was your birthplace but then some guy named Arthur would write the same thing you wrote

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    2. I belonged to a group that wasn’t a gang but it had the same love and respect as a gang. We shared respect with the Brownsville Chicano’s like myself and La Raza Tampiqueña, Campechera, and many other shrimpers from Mexico. Many Camaroneros could go anywhere and not get in trouble. La raza always would ask for shrimp and seafood (🤣). I was a Camaronero, hard working, hard spending, and unfortunately; hard partying. I lived in Jackson St. for a while, in a beat up rental house next to the grey water tower. I knew a friend named Picazo and I remember a friend of my dad’s nicknamed Cobra. I only attended Longoria Elementary for one year during the 1st grade, then we moved to La Carolina St. right in front of the Pachecos. I always respected the gang life and fortunately they never messed with me. I was always busy having fun or shrimping.

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  2. Hi I grew up in la 4-21 i remember when we used to stand on the corners just watching who passed by if you were not from our clic we would let you know right away we used to play dice and cards at the corners en la Taylor

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  3. 1945 E. Jackson St. My late father Jose Luis Cantu born there. His brother Ms Ramon and Oscar Cantu. Half brother Lupe Lopez. All veterans. We grew up next door to Roy and Javier Cantu. PJ Cano was also a neighbor as were the Devens, Mayorgas and Betz. Miss the old neighborhood days. TSC was like an extra playground.

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