Saturday, January 19, 2019

2019 0119 Jefferson Davis Stone Honored and Objected To

by Javier R. Garcia
Confederate "widow" at Washington Park

Here are a few photos I took today while passing by Washington Park where Civil War historians met to honor their history and heritage while another small group of activists came to protest the presence of the Jefferson Davis stone monument at Washington park in Brownsville, Texas.
These men can often be seen dressed as soldiers who fought during the Mexican-American War / War with Mexico  (a.k.a. Invasion of Mexico) at Palo Alto Battlefield National Park in their roles as living historians to instruct and educate visitors to the park.  Today, they were here to practice their right and freedom to honor the Confederate marker that has stirred some controversy in recent years ever since the movement to remove Confederate markers began after race-hate crimes increased across the country.
Fake news or not?  I borrowed this from KGBTv's report.  They could at least show a photo of the actual historic marker instead of a statue of Jefferson Davis to give the impression that is what stands at Washington Park.  
 Here is what the stone looked like after it was vandalized.  It has been a year since the media tried to stir up controversy in Brownsville, Texas but the sparks just dont seem to fly here like they have in the rest of the country which has ignited violence in some places.  
There doesn't seem to be any offensive language or inaccurate information with the exception that is calls Jefferson Davis a "martyr."
Fake activists too?  Activists with signs stood a few feet away from Confederate history enthusiasts while two police units were parked nearby.  The organizers are from Edinburgh and Austin which could easily lead anyone to believe not all these people live in Brownsville, Texas and only visit the park to protest the rock.  
The clock is ticking:  The question has turned to downtown commissioner Ben Neece who suggests  that both parties concerned about the fate of the rock must meet together to find a solution.  A town hall meeting was held over a year ago but that was a waste of time - I was there so feel free to ask me why I thought so if you were there also.

You can search this blog for more posts on the "Jefferson Davis" stone to see the li'l media attention it received.  Most people have cooled their heads over it but there are still others determined to see it removed so when we know its fate we'll be sure to post an update about that too.
"There is no such thing as good and bad history.  History is history."


UPDATE:  Reaction from two opponents to the Jefferson Davis stone on Facebook page after I pointed out that these non-locals probably only visit Washington Park to protest.
 Mr Colon admits that they are from McAllen.  If the others are from elsewhere, at least they are visiting Brownsville for it history and maybe they go out to have a bite to eat and well, that sounds like tourism to me.  What good do the protesters bring?  
 Why has nothing been done?!  I'll tell you why.  Opponents to stone have no sense of compromise or means to a solution other than removing stone completely.  Before they demanded it be put in a museum but I hope local museum directors understand that these Confederate markers were not meant to be placed in or outside of museums.  That would make the museum look foolish unless they included adequate interpretation to mark this time in our history when all of a sudden the rock became in instrument of racism (according to opponents, that is).  That's why.  Not only that, soon activists would return and protest the museum because there simply is no satisfying them
 I was also asked to mind my business.  History is my business and it's non-profit!  The hypocrisy.  First off, Confederate folks are just there doing their history thing.  Secondly, the activists are exercising their right to protest the rock.  That's their thing.  Thirdly, I was exercising my freedom to take photos in a public place and post these photos on this blog with no malice intended.  I took the high road.  Then these two come on a Facebook page I administrate to exercise their right to free speech by calling me a troll.  Very few people actually read this blog. 
Mr Colon misunderstood my comment
Trolls use a strategy of tag-teaming to harass Facebook pages when they are losing an argument.
To avoid confrontation I gave this person an opportunity to withdraw but she is actually the person who has been contacting media to complain about the rock.  It has become an obsession with her and  I am accused of being a troll and also of making this a personal issue.  It has become personal.  I love history -  "good and bad" but I repeat myself.....
 "Our Culture" on the border is a shared and combined culture.  There is no denying that but Ms Serrano sees it otherwise.
 Meanwhile the trolling tactics continued with Mr Colon inserting childish memes and Ms Serrano  arguing with Ms X and telling me what I should post on my page as if I would value her suggestion.  She isn't even supposed to see the page anymore after I blocked her but Facebook allows her to have access to page.  I cut all that out.  I was away from computer while the back and forth tirade was going on between Ms S and Ms X.    Note that Ms X alludes to being confronted by another group of protesters in Fakebook posts and comments on this blog.  I was at event for about ten minutes and did not see that.  
The only thing that Ms Serrano accomplished by inserting herself into the discussion was to alienate her friend, Ms. X.  She then contacted KVEO-23 to do another story like they did last year right before Charro Days and also gave them my personal phone number.  I did not bother to return their call.  Ms Serrano has become quite the publicity seeker.  Let's wish her luck.
Teaching them at an early age to use profanity and be intolerant of others practicing their freedom of speech, so they can grow up to be well-rounded citizens.  For any non-Spanish readers of this blog, the phrase "Hijos de la Chingada" (<-- click it) roughly translates to "Sons of Bitches" but the Urban Dictionary provides a  historical meaning.   Photo by Debbie Nathan.
Chica Peligrosa by Marco Almera














2nd UPDATE:  Comments by Ms X retrieved and shared here for the record:




BONUS UPDATEI'm getting pretty sick of hearing from individuals who seem to think because their families have lived in Brownsville, Texas for generations they can behave like cretins.  Word to the wise - I do not care what family you are from or who you know of how much money or influence you have:  If you make comments like these below, you forfeit any respect you were entitled to from me.


By this time I had had enough.  I do not have a problem with using the "Gringo" word since I've use it on page before but  I posted a map on FB someone sent to us and Mr Olvera had to ruin it.  His apology was worthless so I banned him from page.

Nothing embarrasses me more or pisses me off as much as feeling compelled to apologize for the behavior of others.  I think this individual was upset because I posted a political post (at bottom) and wanted to anger me.  He succeeded.  
Brownsville Station was created to provide historic resources to people who appreciate historic Brownsville, Texas.  I do not advertise for a fee - accept donations -  seek special treatment or ask for special favors from businesses I share posts for.  I do not do it for public adulation or political aspirations.  We are all equal on this page.  No one person who joins the page is more important than another.  If  people can not tolerate humor or political posts we share tough shit.


27 comments:

  1. Hi Javier-good to see you today. Nice article and pictures. We don't wear Civil War attire at Palo Alto because the Battle of Palo Alto happened in 1846. However, they are related because some of the notable Civil War figures got their battle experience at Palo Alto. I enjoy your blog. See you next time. Cheers!

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    1. Thanks for the correction. I'll go ahead and revise that. Good seeing everyone out there on both sides exercising our freedom.

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  2. Appreciate this post. Will try it out.

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    1. tell your friend when he listens to Sabbath I will take a listen to this 311 you speak of. Reminds me of a friend too and the only follower of this page. He aint on that Fakebook :D

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    1. If you would like to elaborate feel free to do that otherwise no one will know your story.

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    1. "Dont be so impatient" is what my ex-wife used to say.

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  9. Highly energetic post, I loved that a lot.
    Will there be a part 2?

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    1. Seeing as how long it takes Brownsville to handle this situation; maybe.

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  10. Hey! This post couldn't be written any better!
    Reading through this post reminds me of my old room mate!
    He always kept talking about this. I will forward this write-up to
    him. Fairly certain he will have a good read. Thank you for sharing!

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    1. You anonymous asshats sure like to flatter a lot. This sounds like more spam but go ahead humor us with a story about your old room mate but let's use politically correct terms and refer to old people as elderly so as not to offend social justice warrior-types who might get offended. Oh wait... young people today hate old people these days and maybe you meant "long-time" friend. One must be careful with their words as you can read above eh?

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  11. Was miss x the only person in the whole world of Facebook besides you that saw how racist and ignorant those two activists really are? Cringe worthy tirade of words.. thanks for sharing the comments

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    1. It doesnt take a genius to figure out those two are crack-pots and haters and racist against whites and do not give a shit about history and have a much broader agenda. If Brownsville wants to play with these people "until the cows come home"so be it.

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  12. I was present at this years Confederate Heroes Day representing The Col John S(R.I.P.)Ford Camp we’re gathered at the Memorial to celebrate our confederate brothers and their ancestors it was not a political issue as the opposition wanted to state. Our members tried to speak with them but they don’t want to discuss the truth I find it ironic though that if we are a white supremacy group how is it we have several Hispanics and an African American in our Camp that blows their argument out of the water

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    1. Thank you for your comment. The group you attempted to engage was probably coached by Austin/Endinburgh/McAllen guys not to engage with ANYONE while other group was allowed to 'harass' or provoke your group into an verbal argument. Those tactics are ineffective in Brownsville, Texas. No one is fooled by these pseudo-activists whose agenda is to disrupt our peace and start removing historic markers and renaming of Washington Park etc etc. They are -- frauds and instigators.

      When I approached activists holding signs I identified myself, said I was going to take photos of them and asked them to hold up signs and that I would be posting this on a blog. The li'l mejicanos had to look to the white guy in charge (yes I realize that comes off as 'racist' - idgaf) as if to ask permission to answer me after I asked if they were local. THEN the young lady, detecting WHY I was asking LIED to me. Meanwhile, Mr Colon was giving me the stink eye through big bugg-eyed sunglasses.

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  13. Javier, Good on you mate! History is what it is, we can't go back and change it, we can only interpret and move forward. Unfortunately, the interpretation that these “activists” are trying to filter this particular monument is skewed. What I always like to point out to these “activists” who are of Hispanic descent, is just how many slaves that Mexico, and other Hispanic countries had in their past. Slaves, which were not just brought over on a boat, but indigenous people that were enslaved as well. I don’t understand why only the United States always gets a bad name for slavery. Oh well, keep fighting the good fight… History cannot be changed. We need to learn from it and move on. Stop crying about a rock…

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    1. It will end up far away at Palmito Hill which is actually great. I have never visited that sight and may want to when they start launching Space-X rockets. Those rock haters should be made to pay for it being moved. If they can afford to come from McAllen to protest and hiring professional activists they can afford to pay for moving rock

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    2. Too bad you have no knowledge of history or of Texas. Slavery was abolished in Texas in 1830. Once Texas became a republic, it was legalized once more. Mexico banned slavery LONG before the US did. So they most certainly deserve credit for that and were far more civilized than Texas or the USA.

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    3. Just because Mexico abolished slavery earlier than the U.S.A. doesn't make it more civilized. They didnt abolish the religion that was forced upon them. They never abolished the imbalance of opportunity for the common man that has always plagued them and been cause of instability for generation after generation while the USA grew in power. If you want to talk to Mexicans about how great Mexico is go to Mexico.

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  14. Having this monument still standing in Brownsville is very offensive to any real American. It was erected to celebrate racial oppression and TREASON to the USA. That is a fact. The people who originally put it there wanted to show their power and hatred for the USA. If you think that this is a good idea, then you should be thrilled at putting a monument to Benedict Arnold who did FAR more than Davis did and sacrificed more then he did for the USA. It is equally absurd to think that Davis prior service is enough to wipe out his crimes. Like Davis, you have to love Arnold. Why this is in Brownsville makes no sense since he never set foot here. Anther reason to get rid of it.

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    1. That stone never offended anyone until a handful of hot-blooded college grads began following a charismatic leader who "woke them" to the history behind the stone. The rock haters' leader harassed the city government, city college, school system and called the people and city of Brownsville racists all while at the same time referring to locals as "mestizos" which in itself is a racist label. It only took a matter of time to see the real racism and hatred for our community and pride for our shared heritage came from so-called activists who were coming from other parts of RGV to demonstrate against the presence of that stone. A simple solution would be to revise the historic designation of the stone and state on a plaque that historical markers like ours were meant to intimidate but that would be a lie. That stone was dedicated in a spirit of forgiveness and unification. There is no offensive language on it. If you are offended you should ask yourself why. Real Americans respect others' freedoms and liberties and tolerate hate as long as it does not infringe upon the liberties of others.

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  15. reading this again brought back awful memories for me of abuse but well... pain and pleasure almost the same right?

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